If Quade say he's proud to be Maori do we take him at his word or make him take a test? I'm going to adapt Marxist terminology and call you lefties who can't see the injustice in the treatment of Quade rugby-social-chauvinists!
Rugby has always been a violent hate filled and ultimately pathetic activity not a sport as seen by comments on here and especially if what Scott is saying is true about Quade, who seems to me to be a good joker, then that confirms my feelings about the game racist game disguised as a nationalist-unifying sport.
I think rugby players in particular admired the way the Whites over there kept the blacks "blicks" they call them under control over in SA. Maori, to play in South Africa, had to be called "honorary Whites". Superficailly, things are "better" but not it seems by the comments on here. And the hate that a team player gets, it seems, from NZrs.
There is truth in what Maps is saying. The details don't matter who kicked who in what head when etc , let's take a position. I hope NZ gets beaten by France. I don't know if maps has gone a step too far with the analysis I suspect he hasn't. I remember someone asking Prof. Anne Salmond why Polynesians had never migrated to Australia. Her answer was: "well they're doing it now. This is amplified by romantic notions of an intrinsic spiritual connection to the land that Polynesians often profess themselves.
In Tonga they call it 'faka fonua' and it is used to justify both useful and oppressive causes. Polynesians and palangis have always migrated away from oppression and invented stories to comfort themselves in starkly foreign environments. Quade has taken on the persona of the prickly Australian larrakin among the snakes and other stingers.
Of course rugby is a tool of the nationalist social engineering of opinion. I remember seeing a slow mo close up during a recent all black haka. It was of two players - one islander and one pakeha both performing a dance native to neither of them. My feelings were mixed. On the one hand there was a sense of pleasure in the symbol of diverse unity.
On the other hand, I was determined not to get sucked in by the crude 'we are one' propaganda contained in the image the producer chose to show. Perhaps Quade knows on some fairly non-intellectual level that we are not one at all. We still have lot to sort out and it won't be done by smoothing things over with feel good stuff about oneness. Australians still have a worse record on race relations than we do so let's not offer the larrakins our achilles heel of collective delusion.
Lots of logic chopping going on here. What about some dialectical logic. We are in a crisis now, not in or Key and co have made the RWC its here! Sort of compounds many contradictions to compress the suppressed contradictions into an official channel as organised controlled national violence.
Australia becomes the obvious target as the nearest and dearest imperialist power where rugby rich brother to poor league is one of the few areas NZers can claim dominance. A booby prize of course as it lasts no longer than the hangover.
Cooper personifies all that and sensing that, is caste as the traitor where Scott has a good point rubbing the haka the wrong way with his tats. Its always renegade Maori here that get the worst deal, not renegade Aussie domiciled Maori.
This is a bigger issue because against the theatre of Cooper's vilification Weepu's deification in the church of the people is glorious to behold. Up the Blues! If the latter, then you might need to consider the welling-up of nationalism and patriotic fervour around the Lange Government's Anti-Nuclear legislation and stand-off with the US.
I tend to find these types of analysis to be based on making an argument to support a predetermined position. In this case your predetermined position is one constantly espoused by those of a mildly intellectual bent. That has influenced your argument to a large extent but to an equal extent you have made the error of believing that how you THINK other Pakeha think is therefore how indeed they do think mind reading if you will.
You are placing too much emphasis on Pakeha believing this is a Maori thing. Whereas from the multitude of people I have spoken to both Maori and Pakeha — I live in a small Far North town with a mix they dislike Cooper due to his gloating following the Hong Kong Test and his subsequent cheap shots like the knee to his head.
In none of the conversations I have had has his ethnicity been raised even once. My Maori friends here in Kaitaia dislike him for the same reasons I do — i. Until I read your post I had not even considered his ethnicity.
You have made the same mistake groups make about other groups — stereotyping them based on your fixed views about them. Your views are based on an historical view of Pakeha — I can assure you that at least in my community Pakeha are very secure in their lives and proud of who they are. NZ's hate Quade Cooper because he plays for Australia I am disgusted by the way they boo him everytime he touches the ball,its the worst form of bad sportmanship i have ever seen from a country.
You should be ashamed while the entire world watches. I now believe my friends when they tell me how much New Zealand hates them for no reason. I will never visit NZ in my life because of this. All these NZ rugger buggers have is this pathetic game. Who cares who brags about what or upper cuts whom or who wins what? It is all bullshit. As a Kiwi I can see your point, but not all of us are morons; there are some such as I, who, for example, have no interest in rugby, have never heard of Quadalude Cooper and don't care who he is, but e.
Nihil bastardum carbarundem! People hate Cooper because he comes across as a douchebag and because he plays up to that image. In truth, he seems to be a decent enough guy, and most New Zealanders know that. Most sports have characters like this the NHL is full of them; football is full of them who people love to hate. It has nothing to do with race for most people. This is so true, I've noticed this too. Quade Cooper is great, I'm proud of him.
The hate campaign is disgusting and they would never treat him like that if he were white. White NZers think Maori and Maori culture belong to them. We don't exist independently, we're an aspect of their identity that's why they won't leave us alone.
I think that is true about Richie Mccaw too, I never got his appeal. He cheats all the tme, the abs have been caught cheating on camera all tournament and nobody says anything - not even the refs!
Last night Mccaw blatently kneed Parra in the head, we all saw it and nobody boos him. He's a grown man he should be able to take what he dishes out. And afaik he hasn't spoken out about the way his groupies are treating Quade, like he needs their protection, that's not very retro-manly is it?
And politically when island nations chalenge nz's self-appointed leader role in the region. When Captain Cook first landed on the islands of New Zealand in the , one thing immediately became apparent to him — the Maori people are fucking stone-cold hardcore. Part of this sudden realization concerning the undeniable badass credibility of the indigenous Polynesian peoples of this island probably stem from the fact that one of Cook's first encounters with the Maori happened when a pimped-out war canoe I love the idea of "war canoes" by the way rolled up alongside Cook's ship and a couple of skull-crushing tribesmen with gnarly full-face tattoos stood up in their ship and held up a set of perfectly-preserved severed heads they had recently detached from the torsos of a band of almost-equally-hardcore warriors.
Cook noted with interest that these dried severed heads were so well preserved that the hair and facial features were still intact and fully-recognizable, which was a pretty impressive if not creepy as fuck feat of modern engineering that both impressed and intimidated him at the same time.
Cook would later learn that taking the heads of your enemies was pretty much a regular custom in Maori culture, and that once the heads had been dried and baked, they were generally put on posts so they could be mocked and cursed in a manner not dissimilar to the one I quoted above. Quade Cooper appears to be to New Zealand rugby fans what Kevin Pietersen was to South African rugby fans: An arrogant young incidentally white man whose sin was not so much to go and play for the enemy, but to turn on the land of his birth and mock things his compatriots hold dear.
A lot of revisionist history going on here. Campese was vilified when he was active, and Weepu had to go through the media mocking his weight - he's not even in the current team. People are doing it because it's over the top and funny. You're over thinking this. Test and Tag Brisbane is committed to providing appliance safety solutions which delivering the highest level of quality services.
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Post a Comment. Reading the Maps Kiwi kulcha. Wednesday, October 19, Why they hate Quade. Sanctuary seems to have nailed it And I might add Richie has been concussed twice, next time should be the last time he is allowed to play Meanwhile Quade Cooper seems to have fixation with McCaws's head, then cops dislike in NZ The rest is just rugby bullshit although judging by Quade's playing worked am Giovanni Tiso said Quades a fucken traitor, Ozzie scum pm Anonymous said Former Wallabies player Quade Cooper's application for citizenship was rejected four times — here's why.
A NSW man who caused a three-day snap lockdown in Southern Tasmania has been charged with allegedly leaving hotel quarantine without permission. Follow our live coverage for the latest news on the coronavirus pandemic. Former Wallabies star Quade Cooper says he has applied for Australian citizenship and been knocked back four times since The professional rugby union player came to Australia from New Zealand when he was 13 and has represented Queensland in the sport more than times, as well as playing 70 tests for Australia between and The trouble with his application appears to be the amount of time he has spent overseas — including playing in Japan for the past two seasons.
A Department of Home Affairs spokesperson told 7. In certain circumstances, there can exceptions to this rule if a person "is engaged in activities that are of benefit to Australia" or engaged in specific types of work set out in legislation. However, the spokesperson explained "rugby union is not listed in the legislative instrument as an eligible activity".
Immigration Minister Alex Hawke declined to comment on the case, although former Home Affairs minister Peter Dutton last week defended the process.
Professor of Public Law at the University of Adelaide, Alex Reilly, said many people would be surprised at how hard it was to turn permanent residency into citizenship — a result of changes introduced in with the support of both major parties. This is home. Watch this story tonight on 7. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the lands where we live, learn, and work.
News Ticker Breaking news A NSW man who caused a three-day snap lockdown in Southern Tasmania has been charged with allegedly leaving hotel quarantine without permission. Playing rugby for Australia is no exception.
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